tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-997920555510565452.post4777238387404919243..comments2022-12-20T21:09:38.092+02:00Comments on suihkulokki rambling: Cult of workaroundsRiku Voipiohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11009374403959477488noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-997920555510565452.post-55888743055800644752009-07-29T17:14:22.088+03:002009-07-29T17:14:22.088+03:00http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=5...http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=539157<br /><br />Yeah, definitively reportbug bug.<br />Note the line I quote in my second<br />mail… but now they know, they can<br />indeed fix it (right, hopefully).<br /><br />Thanks for the heads-up regarding that<br />the original mail was broken already!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-997920555510565452.post-56963008640837450152009-07-29T12:09:12.034+03:002009-07-29T12:09:12.034+03:00Oh, interesting. So it’s really the
fault of repor...Oh, interesting. So it’s really the<br />fault of reportbug then?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-997920555510565452.post-37142488732562283742009-07-28T13:47:04.097+03:002009-07-28T13:47:04.097+03:00like *@mirbsd.org, *debian.org, including rietz, d...like *@mirbsd.org, *debian.org, including rietz, do not advertize 8BITMIME, and should thus not recieve any 8bit mails from anyone. It is the responsibility of the party sending to rietz.debian.org to convert to 7bit before passing the mail to rietz.<br /><br />rietz, not being a 8BITMIME supporting mailer, has no reason to convert any mails it is forwarding.<br /><br />The BTS maintainer probably just failed to really research what 8BITMIME is about.<br /><br />The real problem here is that year 2009, exim still doesn't support 8BITMIME. The major other mailer not supporting 8BITMIME (qmail) has at least the excuse of not being developed anymore.Riku Voipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11009374403959477488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-997920555510565452.post-81993512887906032482009-07-27T10:45:30.397+03:002009-07-27T10:45:30.397+03:00> And when a properly 8BITMIME supporting
> ...> And when a properly 8BITMIME supporting<br />> mailer needs to pass a mail to a smtp<br />> daemon that doesn't advertize 8bit<br />> capability, the sending mail daemon<br />> will happily convert the mail to quoted<br />> printable mime.<br /><br />Actually, the Debian ones, out of all,<br />don’t!<br /><br />For example, both *@mirbsd.org mailers<br />are sendmail customised to *NOT* adver-<br />tise 8BITMIME in the ESMTP EHLO dialo-<br />gue and strip bit7 from any incoming<br />eMails (both because we can and as hi-<br />storical behaviour to protect possibly<br />buggy MUAs – which I don’t use, but<br />still). When I send reports to the BTS,<br />the mails get mangled because Debian’s<br />MTAs (at least rietz) send them as 8bit<br />and refuse to convert, *DESPITE* our<br />party not advertising 8BITMIME.<br /><br />Upon complaining to the BTS maintainers,<br />they say that this is the desired beha-<br />viour IN ORDER TO *NOT* BREAK signatu-<br />res! Hah!<br /><br />So they’re willingly breaking standards<br />compliance to optimise for a corner case<br />instead of fixing PGP/MIME to handle<br />messages with changed Content-Transfer-<br />Encoding.<br /><br />.oO(wouldn’t happen with Inline PGP?)<br />.oO(PGP/MIME sucks anyway)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com